In Defense of Atheism or So You Don’t Really Believe That I am an Atheist?

Introduction: 

I meet many people who seem shocked when I tell them that I am an Atheist.  From best friends to strangers, they almost always say “No, you are not!”  They seem to think that my moral and ethical beliefs or even some of my spiritual beliefs are inconsistent with being an Atheist.  Sometimes as when Karen joined the Presbyterian church up here, they will say “Well, I will watch over you and help God to change your mind.”  This was told to me by various church elders.

The letter below which led to this blog was sent by a good woman friend who has a spirituality group which I joined and which meets once a month.  We study different thoughts from different religions and belief systems about specific topics such as kindness, gratitude, mercy, forgiveness and many others.  It is a great group, and our leader Dorothy is well versed in several different religions and very open minded about spirituality and where it could come from.  Nevertheless, I think even Dorothy doubts that I truly and really do not believe that a God exists or at least as I have claimed, seventy five percent of the time, I do not believe in a God.  Lately, this belief has risen to about 99 percent of the time.

Thus, I was not totally surprised to receive an article from Dorothy (Name changed for privacy reasons) regarding biases affecting Atheists.  I enjoyed reading the article, but when it came to the author’s reason for people being an Atheist, I found that not one of them fit for me.  Many people think Atheism is a default belief system.  When all else has failed someone or when someone has had major trauma in their life shaking their faith in God, they default to a neutral or some might say a negative position, i.e. Atheism.

I once joined an Atheists group years ago.  Karen and I went to a few of their meetings.  I expected to find kindred souls.  People with a firm logical and rational non-belief in God.  Not angry or discouraged people.  Not people who believed in conspiracies.  Not people who believed that all religions were evil.  Sadly, these meetings discouraged me from ever wanting to join an Atheist group again.  I am going to sound judgmental here but most of these people were wacky.  After having lunch and time together, I was ready to get on my magic carpet and fly away.

So, after reading the article that Dorothy sent to me, I felt I wanted to respond to the ideas and theories that the author’s Gervais and Majle suggested where the reasons for Atheism.  The following is the complete text of my letter back to Dorothy.

Hi Dorothy,

Thanks for sharing the article and study.  I find it interesting but not surprising that the study by Gervais and Majle found a built in cultural bias against being an Atheist.  These biases exist for many reasons including the following.  I will list eight that I can think of but no doubt there are more.

  1. Morality has historically been linked to religion

For most of human history:

  • Laws
  • Social norms
  • Oaths
  • Punishments

were tied to divine authority.

So many people carry an implicit mental shortcut:

“Belief in God → moral restraint → trustworthy person”

Even if they consciously know that’s not logically necessary.

  1. Fear of “no cosmic surveillance”

Psychologists call this the supernatural monitoring hypothesis.

If someone believes:

  • “No God is watching”
  • “No afterlife punishment”

Some people assume that a person has fewer reasons to behave morally.  This seems to be the case among many people, but I think there is no empirical evidence to show that people are more immoral now than before many mainstream religions started to decline.  And even if there was, ,for instance “The Death of Character” author claims a decline in morality since 1900 in the USA, but he does not define a cause.  Perhaps it was the “God is Dead Movement” or perhaps it was the “Prosperity Gospel?”

But this ignores:

  • empathy
  • social contracts
  • evolutionary cooperation
  • internalized ethics

—all of which are powerful moral drivers.

  1. Minority status effect

Atheists are a small, stigmatized minority in many societies.

Research shows minorities are often:

  • seen as less trustworthy
  • perceived as norm-violating
  • judged more harshly for the same behavior

This is a classic out-group bias, not a moral evaluation.

  1. Cultural narrative, not evidence

In the U.S. especially, moral language is often coded in religious terms:

  • “God-fearing”
  • “Judeo-Christian values”
  • “One nation under God”

Atheism gets framed as: “outside the moral tradition”

even though that framing is sociological, not factual.

  1. The irony: Atheists judging atheists

This study mentioned that even Atheists show the bias in some studies.

That’s actually common in psychology:

People can internalize cultural stereotypes about their own group.
It doesn’t mean they believe them rationally—it means the stereotype is culturally pervasive.

  1. What the data on morality actually shows

Across large studies:

  • Atheists score similar to religious people on measures of empathy and fairness
  • Secular societies (e.g., Scandinavia) have low crime and high social trust
  • Moral reasoning does not require belief in God

From a Deming perspective (which I highly value), morality is largely:

  • a system outcome
  • shaped by education, environment, leadership, and culture

—not by a single belief variable.

  1. A systems view (my natural lens after working with the Deming philosophy)

If we apply a socio-technical / Deming framework:

The problem is not:

  • Atheists
  • believers

The problem is a cultural system that equates morality with religious identity

That’s a classification error—confusing:

  • belief → with → behavior

which is exactly the kind of faulty measurement logic Deming warned about.

8. Philosophical bottom line

Morality can come from multiple sources:

  1. Religious command ethics
  2. Humanistic ethics
  3. Social contract theory
  4. Virtue ethics
  5. Evolutionary cooperation

Atheism simply removes divine authority as the source.
It does not remove:

  • empathy
  • reason
  • compassion
  • responsibility

In some cases, it can even increase the emphasis on human accountability:

“We are responsible for each other because no one else is.”

The article Dorothy sent me hits on many reasons that many people allegedly have for NOT believing in a God.  None of these reasons resonate with me.

Going back to the article that Dorothy send me, I want to take each of the three major reasons that the authors claim Atheists use for rejecting God and give you my own rebuttal for these explanations.

  1. Religion often controls people and Atheists are merely trying to reject control:

All systems of thought control people.  I have no doubt that whether I believe in Communism, Capitalism, or Christianity there will be biases that control my behavior.

  1. Organized Religion is often hypocritical:

I wrote a blog on hypocrisy a few years ago.  I consider most of the world’s religions infected by hypocrisy not just Atheism.  I have met people of all religions who are hypocrites, so I do not reject God because of this idea.  I rather reject the rationality and integrity of many people who seem to substitute religious dogma for reason and logic.

  1. Science does not support the existence of God:

This would be the last refuge I would take for not believing in God.  Science is not infallible.  It self-corrects if followed properly but it takes decades for this to happen.  I think people who put their FAITH in science and technology are often more foolish than those who put their faith in a God.

This brings us to the question, “Why than do I reject the idea of God or why don’t I believe in God?

Dorothy, I think my reasons are very simple.  They are as follows:

  1. I don’t need a God to run my life.
  2. I would hate to think that any kind of omniscient or omnipotent being could actually be responsible for letting the stuff happen on this planet that humanity is subjected to on a daily basis.
  3. Do I need a God to explain the universe and beauty that we often find in it? I don’t think so.  Perhaps it is all the cause of some natural phenomenon that we still cannot explain?  I have a feeling that we will never find the answer to this question.
  4. I don’t believe that any God would bother to create “MAN” in his own image. Rather “Man” created God in his image and a very sad God it has been for the most part.
  5. I have been in many situations where I had to look death in the face and felt that my end was near. Not once, did I stop to pray for a God that I don’t believe in or that I think never existed.  Perhaps, my one area of non-hypocrisy has been my steadfast belief (somewhat tempered by the cognizance of my own limited intelligence) that perhaps I am wrong and that God really does exist.

Finally, my desire to ignore God does not pertain to the beliefs of others.  Much like I hope that I can do some good for the human race before I die, I hope a heaven exists. I hope a beneficent God does exists who can provide comfort and succor to those people that really need or want it.  I think there are many people in this category.  I hope that I do not ever downgrade their beliefs, and that I can stick to mine without tearing down the beliefs of others.

Karen was once asked “How can you live with an Atheist?”  She replied, “He respects my religious beliefs and I respect his.”

So Dorothy, thank you very much.  I hope that I did not bend your ear to much, but the article offered me a chance to explain myself and my beliefs.  I think many people just walk away from me because they think that I am some kind of an immoral person.  Or that it is not worth knowing anyone who holds (in their mind) a radical belief that there is no God.

Conclusions:

It is a very sad world when we all have to believe the same things about life and love.  I don’t dispute the idea that there are some things we can all agree on and that we call these things facts.  I also believe that not all belief systems rely on facts and logic.  As long as your belief system allows my belief system to live, we can be friends.  However, if your belief system makes my belief system wrong or evil, I fear we will never walk this earth together in peace and harmony.  The great prophets have all said the same thing.  Love is the key.  It has been said that without a vision, the people will perish. 

The real truth is that without love, people will perish. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

75 % Atheist and 25 % Percent Agnostic

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I grew up in an Italian Irish family.  What else would I be except a devout Catholic?  The bigger question is how did I go from being a Catholic to an Atheist or at least a 75% percent Atheist?  I now claim I am seventy-five percent Atheist and twenty-five percent Agnostic.  I will explain this formula later.

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Well, my journey from one God to no God started many years ago and perhaps mimics the trajectory of many a lapsed Catholic.  Went to a Catholic school.  Lots of Catholic theology.  Bible study each week.  Surrounded by priests and nuns.  Confession on Fridays followed by ten “Our Fathers” and twenty or so “Hail Marys.”  Church and communion on Sunday.  Back to being bad, masturbating and thinking dirty thoughts about the girl in the pew next to me on Mondays.  She kept wearing skirts that hiked up above her knees when she sat down.  The nuns kept telling her that her skirts were too short, but she somehow ignored their admonitions.  I was personally awfully glad that she did.

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Sounds a little bit like I should have been a priest.  Sadly, I did not even make altar boy. Along the way, my questions about God received the standard answer.  Question, “Who made God?”  Reply, “God always was and always will be.”  Just before my 12th birthday, a godly priest damned me to hell for taking an unauthorized ride at a carnival that was set-up for a Catholic fund raiser.  Between bull-shit answers about God, condemnations for horny thoughts and being damned to hell, I decided to leave Catholicism for (as they say) greener pastures.

HuffP1-1Like Dion DiMucci’s “The Wanderer,” I spent years wandering from church to church and religion to religion to explore other venues for spirituality.  Dion was my favorite pop singer in the sixties.  As I write this, he is still alive and performing.  One of his most popular hits was a song called “The Wanderer.”  The lyrics grabbed every guy I hung out with, and we all dreamed of being macho and tough like the guy in the song.

Oh well I’m the type of guy who will never settle down
Where pretty girls are well, you know that I’m around
I kiss ’em and I love ’em ’cause to me they’re all the same
I hug ’em and I squeeze ’em they don’t even know my name
They call me the wanderer, yeah the wanderer
I roam around, around, around.

Oh well I roam from town to town
I go through life without a care
‘Til I’m as happy as a clown
With my two fists of iron and I’m going nowhere.

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I suppose I had somewhat of Dion’s attitude towards religion.  To me they were all the same.  One God, their God, their rules.  You bought into their shtick, or you did not belong.  The price of admission.  Sell your soul for their traditions, their beliefs and their theology and you will be saved and adored and admitted into the flock.  Ask any questions, challenge any favorite tropes and excommunication and hell fire awaits you.  Their God always reigned supreme, and any other Gods were fake.  That is why the term for parishioners as a flock is so appropriate.  Most people are like sheep who flock together and have little stomach for questioning authority.  I have to say most, or my spouse will jump on me for a really gross generalization.  She helps to keep me in line when my cynicism towards the world outruns reality.

After not finding any religions that met my standards of objectivity and open-mindedness, I came to reject organized religions as evil and dangerous.  Witness the many wars fought in the name of someone’s God.  I started defining myself as an Atheist.  I despised all religions.  I sought out other Atheists but paradoxically found that I did not fit in with the Atheist groups that I met.  Atheists profess a strong orientation towards science, logic, and evidence as a basis for spirituality, but many of the Atheists I met were narrowminded, bigoted and worst of all made decisions without sound evidence or data.

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My faith in Atheism was shaken many times by highly religious people who had more in common with my beliefs than the Atheists I had met.  For instance, when Sister Giovanni was interviewing me to teach at Guadalupe Area Project, I informed her that I was an Atheist.  She replied, “I don’t care what you are as long as you are a good teacher.”  I still could not find any evidence for God, heaven, hell, or an after life not rooted in hopes and dreams but nevertheless my Atheistic roots over the years have continually been shaken.

Some of the things that have shaken my beliefs are the many good people who passionately believe in God and their religious obligations towards others.  Jesus said:

“But I say to you who hear, love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who abuse you. To one who strikes you on the cheek, offer the other also, and from one who takes away your cloak do not withhold your tunic either. Give to everyone who begs from you, and from one who takes away your goods do not demand them back. And as you wish that others would do to you, do so to them.” — Jesus Christ, English Standard Version (Luke 6:27–31)

I have met people who follow these beliefs in a variety of religions.  I came to accept that religions have done much good as well as much bad for the world.  Not being God, I have no way of knowing or proving whether the bad or the good outweighs the other, so I have simply stopped judging most religions.  I say most because there are still some religions that I see as hypocritical and even evil.  The idea of a “Prosperity Gospel” strikes me as a justification for greed and selfishness.

Another finding that has shaken my moorings as an Atheist are all the really smart people who believe in a God.  I weigh myself against such people and come up noticeably short.  If these people are so much more intelligent and accomplished than I am, maybe, just maybe, I might be wrong.  How can I sit here and argue that they are wrong?  It would be arrogant to think that I have all the knowledge and information to assert that “there is no God” when much greater thinkers than I have affirmed and argued a belief in God.

I started calling myself an Agnostic to reconcile some of the above dilemmas.  The definition of an Agnostic is, “A person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomena; a person who claims neither faith nor disbelief in God.”  Being an Agnostic, I could go happily through life never having to attack or defend my convictions concerning the existence of God.  This position has certain benefits, but it is not without constraints.  The biggest constraint is being seen as a copout or wishy washy.  Someone who straddles the fence because they are afraid of taking a position.

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I want to avoid being seen as wishy washy but some days I feel like an Atheist and other days I feel like an Agnostic.  If there were a continuum between Atheism and Agnosticism it varies from day to day for me.  Today, I feel like I am 75 percent Atheist and 25 percent Agnostic.  Tomorrow I might be fifty-fifty or sixty-forty.  Life is a process that is continually in flux.  Change is inevitable.  Our moods change, our likes and dislikes change, our aches and pains change, our joys and sadness’s change.  It only makes sense to me that my affinity for one religious position or another should change.

So, if you ever want to know what religion I am, it will probably be somewhere between 100 percent Atheist and 100 percent Agnostic.

“To one who has faith, no explanation is necessary. To one without faith, no explanation is possible.”  ― St. Thomas Aquinas

“As a philosopher, if I were speaking to a purely philosophic audience I should say that I ought to describe myself as an Agnostic, because I do not think that there is a conclusive argument by which one can prove that there is not a God. On the other hand, if I am to convey the right impression to the ordinary man in the street I think that I ought to say that I am an Atheist, because, when I say that I cannot prove that there is not a God, I ought to add equally that I cannot prove that there are not the Homeric gods.”  ― Bertrand Russell